Comments on: The Deception of Scott Patterson http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/ Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:15:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: erik http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-401 erik Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:28:20 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-401 now i can see it. odd now i can see it. odd

]]> By: Jesse http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-400 Jesse Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:59:39 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-400 Great Article. The biggest question i have, can he get out major league hitters consistently or is he just a deceiving pitcher. Meaning if you pitch him twice in a series he will get lit up the second time. Great Article. The biggest question i have, can he get out major league hitters consistently or is he just a deceiving pitcher. Meaning if you pitch him twice in a series he will get lit up the second time.

]]> By: Joe http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-399 Joe Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:42:59 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-399 Remember, injury is as much about genetics and predisposition to injury as it is about mechanics. There have been lots of guys with wacky mechanics that seem to throw forever without major injury. Also, there are plenty of pitchers with stress free perfect mechanics that dont hold up (Mark Prior, Schilling, etc). It should be noted...Patterson is almost 29 and has NEVER missed time with any arm injury (knock on wood!). Remember, injury is as much about genetics and predisposition to injury as it is about mechanics. There have been lots of guys with wacky mechanics that seem to throw forever without major injury. Also, there are plenty of pitchers with stress free perfect mechanics that dont hold up (Mark Prior, Schilling, etc).

It should be noted…Patterson is almost 29 and has NEVER missed time with any arm injury (knock on wood!).

]]> By: CB http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-397 CB Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:28:14 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-397 Very nice analysis. I like how you guys are pragmatic - rather than droning on and on about how his early hip rotation is a negative in terms of velocity the point you make on the deception is a good one. When you watch him it's pretty clear it's the deception that's getting him by so analyzingsspecifically why he is deceptive is really helpful. He's far from the standard pitcher so it's good to see an analysis which isn't standard. It's also nice to not read an analysis of mechanics that concludes with great certainty that the pitcher will inevitably, 100% get hurt. Very nice analysis. I like how you guys are pragmatic – rather than droning on and on about how his early hip rotation is a negative in terms of velocity the point you make on the deception is a good one.

When you watch him it’s pretty clear it’s the deception that’s getting him by so analyzingsspecifically why he is deceptive is really helpful. He’s far from the standard pitcher so it’s good to see an analysis which isn’t standard.

It’s also nice to not read an analysis of mechanics that concludes with great certainty that the pitcher will inevitably, 100% get hurt.

]]> By: Eric http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-396 Eric Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:23:52 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-396 Great stuff frank. Patterson has been an intriguing guy to follow. Great stuff frank. Patterson has been an intriguing guy to follow.

]]> By: fpiliere44 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-395 fpiliere44 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:47:03 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-395 Well I only used that analogy because of the straight over the top nature of his arm. But yes it is fairly straight...and in comes Curt Schilling's theory of getting as over the top as possible for command purposes. Well I only used that analogy because of the straight over the top nature of his arm. But yes it is fairly straight…and in comes Curt Schilling’s theory of getting as over the top as possible for command purposes.

]]> By: Tripp http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-394 Tripp Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:34:09 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-394 Wouldn't "an arm motion similar to a batting cage pitching machine" make his fastball flat and therefore easier to hit? I guess that's where the above average control comes in? Wouldn’t “an arm motion similar to a batting cage pitching machine” make his fastball flat and therefore easier to hit?

I guess that’s where the above average control comes in?

]]> By: River Ave. Blues | Saber-Scouting on Scott Patterson http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-393 River Ave. Blues | Saber-Scouting on Scott Patterson Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:17:43 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-393 [...] the month appears to be pitching mechanics (next month, pickoff moves!), but amidst the crap comes this gem about what makes Scott Patterson effective, courtesy of Frankie at Saber-Scouting. Frankie details how Patterson uses not only his size, but [...] [...] the month appears to be pitching mechanics (next month, pickoff moves!), but amidst the crap comes this gem about what makes Scott Patterson effective, courtesy of Frankie at Saber-Scouting. Frankie details how Patterson uses not only his size, but [...]

]]> By: fpiliere44 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-392 fpiliere44 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:07:21 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-392 So can I. Glad I'm not losing my mind, lol. I recorded this video myself in Scranton so MLB has no say on it. So can I. Glad I’m not losing my mind, lol. I recorded this video myself in Scranton so MLB has no say on it.

]]> By: dan http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/the-deception-of-scott-patterson/#comment-390 dan Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:02:44 +0000 http://saberscouting.wordpress.com/?p=100#comment-390 I can still see it. I can still see it.

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